Curse

Nightmares Hammer · Feb 25, 2008, 03:15 AM // 03:15

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Originally Posted by pumpkin pie

players 1 buys game
players 2 buys game

both players gets to a point where they get the skill ursan blessing, both are entitle to use it.

if both players happens to have all elite areas available for them, they are both entitle to play in that area with what ever skill set they so chooses. no one can say who is more ELITE .

True.... But, don't they also want to have fun? Is'nt that the reason they bought the game? I know thats the reason i bought the game...

Ursan however is far from fun... As anyone can see, all it is is mindless button mashing... So, basicly, if you did'nt buy the game to have fun...

Then why the hell did you buy it?

Zahr Dalsk · Feb 25, 2008, 03:16 AM // 03:16

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Originally Posted by Nightmares Hammer

Because there ELITE areas, designed for ELITE players (IE people who don't suck...)

epic lawlz

Your profession is listed as W/Mo.

pumpkin pie · Feb 25, 2008, 03:18 AM // 03:18

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Originally Posted by Nightmares Hammer

True.... But, don't they also want to have fun? Is'nt that the reason they bought the game? I know thats the reason i bought the game...

Ursan however is far from fun... As anyone can see, all it is is mindless button mashing... So, basicly, if you did'nt buy the game to have fun...

Then why the hell did you buy it?

Don't use skill you don't like, i don't and the game is still 100% fun

Nightmares Hammer · Feb 25, 2008, 03:19 AM // 03:19

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Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk

epic lawlz

Your profession is listed as W/Mo.

And how is that funny...?

That was my first character... I've changed the secondary now, of course.

You really need to think before you post... -.-

Nightmares Hammer · Feb 25, 2008, 03:22 AM // 03:22

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Originally Posted by pumpkin pie

Don't use skill you don't like, i don't and the game is still 100% fun

You see, thats the problem, more and more people are using Ursan, all the guilds i've been in use Ursan, and so won't group with non-ursan's...

No fun for me.

Zahr Dalsk · Feb 25, 2008, 03:29 AM // 03:29

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Originally Posted by Nightmares Hammer

And how is that funny...?

That was my first character... I've changed the secondary now, of course.

You really need to think before you post... -.-

1 - You can change that in your profile.

2 - I wanted to make fun of you since I saw by one of your posts that you're an elitist jackass. The easiest way is to flame you for being a Wammo, and then merrily dance along to the next thread.

Stop double posting, Hammer, it's annoying.

Nightmares Hammer · Feb 25, 2008, 03:32 AM // 03:32

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Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk

1 - You can change that in your profile.

2 - I wanted to make fun of you since I saw by one of your posts that you're an elitist jackass. The easiest way is to flame you for being a Wammo, and then merrily dance along to the next thread.

Stop double posting, Hammer, it's annoying.

You flame everything, you have problems.

I know i can change it, but i'm not going too, mostly because i like too remember my newbie days...

Mending Touch says your the jackass.

JeniM · Feb 25, 2008, 03:36 AM // 03:36

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Originally Posted by Nightmares Hammer

Because there ELITE areas, designed for ELITE players (IE people who don't suck...)

+1

Odd last time i played The Deep i was told exactly what skills to have or be kicked and told to stand in one spot and, you've guessed it, mash buttons. How are the "elite" areas so much harder to play than Ursan? All they required was a bit longer thinking bout builds or more normally a trip to PvXWiki. Thats what you class as "not sucking" being able to load a PvX build into your bar then hit the skills in the order it tells you?

Edit after seeing above post : You started the flame fest by saying people that use Ursan just "suck", also you are clearly posting for post count as you :
a) Double post
b) Posted a "+1" in your post i quoted

Nightmares Hammer · Feb 25, 2008, 03:38 AM // 03:38

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Originally Posted by JeniM

Odd last time i played The Deep i was told exactly what skills to have or be kicked and told to stand in one spot and, you've guessed it, mash buttons. How are the "elite" areas so much harder to play than Ursan? All they required was a bit longer thinking bout builds or more normally a trip to PvXWiki. Thats what you class as "not sucking" being able to load a PvX build into your bar then hit the skills in the order it tells you?

No, PvX helps newbies, i make my own builds...

Edit: The double post was... Unintentional.

I did'nt start any "flame fest" Zahr is trying too.

Zahr Dalsk · Feb 25, 2008, 03:39 AM // 03:39

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Originally Posted by Nightmares Hammer

You flame everything

Of course I do.

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Originally Posted by Nightmares Hammer

you have problems

No, I'm just easily amused.

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Originally Posted by Nightmares Hammer

I know i can change it, but i'm not going too, mostly because i like too remember my newbie days...

The English language hates you. Poor old grammar...

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Originally Posted by Nightmares Hammer

Mending Touch says your the jackass.

Ok, I get it, you're a noob at the game. You build for solo 1v1 duels.

In a team build it would be the monk, N/Rt, or Rt's job to remove conditions. And Guild Wars is a team game.

Nightmares Hammer · Feb 25, 2008, 03:43 AM // 03:43

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Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk

Of course I do.

No, I'm just easily amused.

The English language hates you. Poor old grammar...

Ok, I get it, you're a noob at the game. You build for solo 1v1 duels.

In a team build it would be the monk, N/Rt, or Rt's job to remove conditions. And Guild Wars is a team game.

I'm not taking the bait. I'm gone.

JeniM · Feb 25, 2008, 03:43 AM // 03:43

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Originally Posted by Nightmares Hammer

No, PvX helps newbies, i make my own builds...

But most people don't when going to "elite" areas, they just visit PvX, because it's easier, same reason people use Ursan

What is so wrong with players with less experiance or time to play having access to harder areas?

You say you can't find a group that don't run Ursan, then join a guild that don't want Ursan, call it We Hate [UB] or something. Theres enough people that hate Ursan on the forum to make a decent sized Alliance, but theres also enough that like it/don't care to form the rest of the playerbase.

dargon · Feb 25, 2008, 03:44 AM // 03:44

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Originally Posted by tyla salanari

That can be blocked. And you have to start your combo when that enemy dies. Ursan is also a 3-second recharge with a PBAoE KD.
Can be affected by antimelee.
Unlike Ursan, doesn't give you +200hp, +20 armour. (providing you have r10)
Also it's 180 armour ignoring damage per ursan. (again, providing you have r10)

You obviously missed my point. ANY skill / skill combo could be seen as over powered in large numbers. Just look at paragons, fairly balanced until you put 2 or 3 together. The same goes for death blossom, splinter/barrage, lightning orb, feast of corruption, energy surge, triple chop, clamor of souls, cruel spear, and reapers sweep. All of those skills will devastate one or more targets in an opposing party if hit by multiple sources.

Yes, ursan is powerful, yes, it does dumb things down a bit, however nobody forces you to use it. If you want to DoA in a non-ursan group, then make one. If you're whining because your armbrace isn't as valuable as it once was, here's a hanky, go blow your nose because frankly, I don't think anything in the game should be worth that much and it's pricing things at that level that harm the economy, simply because people go, I can't afford X, so I have to go buy some gold. Oh wait we're against gold sellers here aren't we? Make things more affordable and the gold sellers no longer see a profit and they start to evaporate.

Zahr Dalsk · Feb 25, 2008, 03:45 AM // 03:45

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Originally Posted by Nightmares Hammer

I'm not taking the bait. I'm gone.

Not fast enough.

As to Ursan, I won't miss it if it goes away. But I don't mind it here either. In other words I don't care at all if it's here or not.

noneedforclevernames · Feb 25, 2008, 03:58 AM // 03:58

/signed \

nerf it..even people who arn't signing it agree that it is both ruining the economy and unbelievably easy to play from the dozen or so posts i read.

JeniM · Feb 25, 2008, 04:08 AM // 04:08

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Originally Posted by Nightmares Hammer

True.... But, don't they also want to have fun? Is'nt that the reason they bought the game? I know thats the reason i bought the game...

Ursan however is far from fun... As anyone can see, all it is is mindless button mashing... So, basicly, if you did'nt buy the game to have fun...

Then why the hell did you buy it?

Thats your OPINION. Not a fact

Thats what annoys me most about these "nerf ursan" threads, you don't like using it so others should be stopped from using it?

/notsigned to this thead (never actually mentioned /notsigned but its pretty clear)

dubiel005 · Feb 25, 2008, 04:17 AM // 04:17

simple every1 who is way too skilled for ursan just go play pvp! close this dumb thread let anet do w.e they want with the blessing. this thread is so useless and anyone who demands a nerf of ursan is just a crybaby! doa deep urgoz they all had cookie cutter builds they were all boring and so is ursan take ur pick.

Torabo · Feb 25, 2008, 04:19 AM // 04:19

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Originally Posted by Mouse at Large

The few times I've played with PVX team build/meta team build PUGs, they have been, without exception horribly selfish and apparently unskilled players.

There
Fixed

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Originally Posted by Koudelka

Far more significantly for me might I add is the total narrowing of builds. I can rarely get into a group in ToA because everyone is either using PVX Team Build , PVX Farming Build or Meta Build of the moment.

There, Fixed again.

*Yawn*
Reading arguments on forums late at night is fun for some reason...

Arkantos · Feb 25, 2008, 05:05 AM // 05:05

Ursan threads need to stop, they're full of QQ/flames/troll/spam. I'm pretty sure ANet know everything they need to know about ursan and how it's ruining the game/helping players who can't do something do it with ease, if they plan on changing it they will. The horse is dead, stop beating the crap out of it.